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Jun 30, 2006 23:18:02 GMT -5
Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jun 30, 2006 23:18:02 GMT -5
Can anyone explain to me how is the free agent signing going to work? Is there a complete set of rules that we can follow?
If a team is over the cap, can he still resign his own unrestricted free agents? restricted agents?
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Jul 1, 2006 1:50:24 GMT -5
Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 1, 2006 1:50:24 GMT -5
I would like a recap of the rules as well.
To answer your question though I beleive if he was on the teams roster the previous season that team can offer whatever even if they are over the cap and that team is the only one that can offer more than the max.
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Jul 1, 2006 1:53:02 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 1, 2006 1:53:02 GMT -5
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Jul 1, 2006 2:07:47 GMT -5
Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 1, 2006 2:07:47 GMT -5
It appears that the major question of what happens when someone gets maxed still has not been answered.
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Jul 1, 2006 6:09:10 GMT -5
Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jul 1, 2006 6:09:10 GMT -5
so if a team is already over the cap, he can only spend his MLE to resign his unrestricted free agents?
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Jul 1, 2006 7:04:19 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 1, 2006 7:04:19 GMT -5
Ok in the NBA you have 2 types of free agents, restricted and unrestricted. A player is a restricted free agent if his rookie contract is ending. Example, this years restricted free agents include Yao Ming, Amare Stoudamire, Mike Dunleavy, etc. A player is an unrestricted free agent if the contract ending is NOT his original rookie contract. Examples of unrestricted free agents include Theo Ratliff, Ben Wallace, Shaquille O'Neal, etc.
When a player is a restricted free agent you are allowed to go over the cap to resign him. You can match any offer that any other team offers him and our rule states that you will still own him. Example, The Atlanta Hawks offer Mike Dunleavy a 5 year 7 million dollar each year contract, becoming the highest bidder. If I match that offer, meaning my offer becomes identical to the Hawks offer, I become the highest bidder because Dunleavy is my own restricted free agent, even though our offers are the same.
When a player is an unrestricted free agent this is not the case. You can not simply match an offer and become the highest bidder. You are allowed to exceed the cap to resign your OWN unrestricted free agents however. The rule is if you do exceed the Salary Cap to resign your own unrestricted free agent, you are not allowed to sign any other free agent on the market. At least that is what I believe is the rule anyway. You cannot exceed your cap to sign any other teams free agents, restricted or unrestricted. So if you were at $50,000,000 for cap and offered your own unrestricted free agent an $11,000,000 contract then that would be ok, however you could not sign any other free agent on the market, just your own restricted/unrestricted, not anybody else's.
Does this make sense? I am allowed to exceed the cap to resign Theo Ratliff and Mike Dunleavy. If I resigned Mike Dunleavy by exceeding the cap, but chose not to resign Ratliff, I would be allowed to pursue other free agents because Dunleavy is restricted. If I exceeded to cap to resign Ratliff then I would not be allowed to pursue other free agents due to the fact that Ratliff is an unrestricted free agent. I believe this is the case however I am not positive.
Am I right here?
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Jul 1, 2006 9:52:28 GMT -5
Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Jul 1, 2006 9:52:28 GMT -5
Detroit is right.
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Jul 1, 2006 11:01:54 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 1, 2006 11:01:54 GMT -5
Oh yeah I forgot...if I use the MLE to resign Ratliff then I can still pursue other players. This means my offer for Ratliff could not be higher then 5.1 million dollars a year for 5 years. If it exceeded that then I could no longer pursue other teams' free agents.
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Jul 1, 2006 11:03:59 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 1, 2006 11:03:59 GMT -5
Oh yeah I forgot...if I use the MLE to resign Ratliff then I can still pursue other players. This means my offer for Ratliff could not be higher then 5.1 million dollars a year for 5 years. If it exceeded that then I could no longer pursue other teams' free agents. You aren't going to be able to pursue other teams free agents at all, you are over the cap. All you can use to sign free agents is the MLE, if you used it on ratliff that would be it, you couldn't sign anyone else.
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Jul 1, 2006 11:05:23 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 1, 2006 11:05:23 GMT -5
Yeah but I meant sign Ratliff for like 2 million dollars, and then I could go after other players. If I split up my MLE
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Jul 1, 2006 11:09:23 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 1, 2006 11:09:23 GMT -5
yeah you could.
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Jul 1, 2006 11:40:13 GMT -5
Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 1, 2006 11:40:13 GMT -5
I thought you couldn't use the MLE unless you were over the cap at the start of FA.
Also If you sign Dunleavy and go over the cap can you still sign Ratliff for whatever? or if you go over the cap on your own FA can you not sign your own other FA's?
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Jul 1, 2006 11:43:44 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 1, 2006 11:43:44 GMT -5
yeah to use the MLE you must be over the cap, or within 5 million. So anyone over 55 million total salary gets the MLE
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Jul 1, 2006 11:55:25 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 1, 2006 11:55:25 GMT -5
Yes I could still sign Ratliff for whatever but I would no longer be able to sign any other player that is not my own free agent.
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Jul 1, 2006 12:02:06 GMT -5
Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 1, 2006 12:02:06 GMT -5
Not even with the MLE or the LLE?
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Jul 1, 2006 13:16:26 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 1, 2006 13:16:26 GMT -5
No because I exceeded the cap to resign my own UNrestricted free agent. If he was restricted then I could, but because he is unrestricted I couldnt sign any other player that isnt my own.
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Jul 1, 2006 19:11:47 GMT -5
Post by Washington Wizards on Jul 1, 2006 19:11:47 GMT -5
id like some clarification on when exactly free agent signings begin b/c my team is relying heavily on signing FA's. id also like to be a 100% sure of what the rules are as far as offering max contracts, is it a 1st come 1 serve basis? there seems to be some confusion reguarding FA's w/ some other owners as well
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Jul 1, 2006 19:13:25 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 1, 2006 19:13:25 GMT -5
I know for certain that they don't start until the draft is over, though how to deal with multiple people offering the max hasn't really been figured out yet it seems
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Jul 1, 2006 19:39:19 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 1, 2006 19:39:19 GMT -5
ANother problem we're going to have, is that since we are giving all players bird rights, and having a max, there is no way for players to switch teams, everyone can just resign their free agents no matter what, it is going to prevent any good players from changing teams, and the same teams will be good as last year. We need to find a better system, because without player choice Free Agency is going to be awful. Maybe we should just eliminate the cap, or say that you can only exercise Bird rights on one player
Edit- In the NBA this is prevented by the luxury tax, as no owner is going to want to pay so much money, and every team is trying to stay near the cap or under it. In a videogame, with no way to enforce the luxury tax we need some limits, either through this, or some tax system where Teams give up picks based on how far over the cap they are
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Jul 1, 2006 19:46:11 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jul 1, 2006 19:46:11 GMT -5
I think we should have a Hard cap and a soft cap. This way teams can not just keep offering their own players all max contracts. I mean what prohibits spurs or pistons... (powerhouse teams) from ever stopping being a powerhouse.
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