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[Cleveland Cavaliers]

Didn't Detroit say he thought he could sweep me? Well sorry Detroit, but that isn't happening. Instead i'll just steel homecourt advantage from you just like that.

[Detroit Pistons]

ill take the series sweep or not. i originally had me down for 5 though. remember, if you got lucky it would be a 5 game series

i think artest was back for that one or is coming back for the next one though...i think its the latter.

btw its steal as in stealing and taking something, not steel as in the metal steel.

[Cleveland Cavaliers]

Don't worry guys, after I beat Detroit we won't have to hear this kid talk anymore. By the way, if you left your team the way it was originally you probably would sweep me. But bad GMing by yourself has you against the ropes vs. the Cavs.

[Dallas Mavericks]

trhamad said:

Don't worry guys, after I beat Detroit we won't have to hear this kid talk anymore. By the way, if you left your team the way it was originally you probably would sweep me. But bad GMing by yourself has you against the ropes vs. the Cavs.

LMFAO...ouch...thems fighting words!

[San Antonio Spurs]

The lower seed won in each matchup, that's interesting.

[Portland Trail Blazers]

except for Orl beating Nj..

[San Antonio Spurs]

oh duh, thats right

[Detroit Pistons]

my team is better than it was before. and im not going to comment on anything else.

[Dallas Mavericks]

pistons521 said:

my team is better than it was before. and im not going to comment on anything else.

i dont know about that...the pistons were the best all around TEAM before...sure you made some huge additions...i remember when the lakers did that 2 years ago...how did that turn out? If you kept your team the way it was i think you would be a lock for the finals...but now i'm not so sure that you can beat cleveland...

[Detroit Pistons]

you guys read to much into things. it was 1 loss. didnt san antonio lose to the lakers his first game? and didnt he just lose to memphis? for some reason im always made out to be the bad guy, maybe thats because everyone wants to see me fail. trust me, my team is better now. sure the pistons are good, but my team is better now. my bench is way better, my starters are better. i went through all of this before with myself. i broke it down and examined the before/after, and i came to the conclusion my team is better. the bench being far, far better.

however im not the same person i was at the beginning of the season. i didnt know what i was doing then. i was inexperienced and big names attracted my attention, along with big contracts. halfway through the season a "new GM" was found for the pistons. a newer me, a smarter me. i made dumb moves, but i also made great moves. if i was to start over, half of the trades i did i wouldnt do now (like bowen and a 1st for prince, probably my dumbest move). but bowen and that first ended up giving me garnett and francis so its ok. and francis gave me hinrich and dunleavy.

and besides, everybody can go through and say another GM made terrible moves. didnt cleveland originally have, oh, i dont know, lebron james? and he had tons of cap room (used to sign ray allen for 22 mil, then go after shaq, both bad moves IMO) so no matter what you view as my team making a bad move, more than likely you yourself have committed an equally bad if not worse move. but to question my ability to GM, and say i am a bad one at that, when i am the #1 seed in the league, and 63-19, is itself, a stupid remark.

i lose one game and everyone attacks me, my ability to run a successful franchise, and my team.

you guys are no different than the media. a team like mine (which somehow must of received the image of unbeatable) loses one game and here come the headlines, and the media, as usual, blowing things up.

[Denver Nuggets]

Game 2 for the western confernce seim finals up.

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[Cleveland Cavaliers]

I figured I would grade each player on the new Detroit team and the original Detroit team. We'll then add them up and see which one is better.

Billups(A) vs. Hinrich(B) (Easily the better player is Billups, a top 3 pg in the league who was 5th in MVP voting. Hinrich is a good player but has never been an all star and isn't close to Billups level.)

Hamilton(B) vs. Kobe (A) (Obviously Kobe is the better player here, but Hamilton is an all star in his own right.)

Artest(B) vs. Prince(B) (Two very similar players. Artest is better defevnsivley, but Prince is better offensivley.)

Garnett(A) vs. Rasheed(B+) (Two top 5 players at their position, but Garnett is a little better)

B. Wallace(A) vs. Ratliff(F) (I'll take the 5 time all star and the 4 time Defensive Player of the Year over a guy that I didn't even know was still in the league.)

Both benches are good, so they would even eachother out and both would get at least a B.

Original Team: A,B,B,B+,A
After Detroit messed up original team: B,A,B,A,F

Maybe it is just me, but the original Detroit team looks awfully good. By the way Detroit, you said that S.A. also lost his first game of the series, and you were trying to compare yourself to him. Well that is a stupid comparrison because S.A. team now is much better then original team.

Terry vs. Parker (evens out)
Wade vs. Ginobli (Wade)
Lebron vs. Bowen (Lebron)
Duncan
Magloire vs. Mohommad (Magloire)

Perfect example of good GMing by S.A. and not so good GMing by Detroit. Don't take it personall, just stating the facts.

[San Antonio Spurs]

trhamad said:

I figured I would grade each player on the new Detroit team and the original Detroit team. We'll then add them up and see which one is better.

Billups(A) vs. Hinrich(B) (Easily the better player is Billups, a top 3 pg in the league who was 5th in MVP voting. Hinrich is a good player but has never been an all star and isn't close to Billups level.)

Hamilton(B) vs. Kobe (A) (Obviously Kobe is the better player here, but Hamilton is an all star in his own right.)

Artest(B) vs. Prince(B) (Two very similar players. Artest is better defevnsivley, but Prince is better offensivley.)

Garnett(A) vs. Rasheed(B+) (Two top 5 players at their position, but Garnett is a little better)

B. Wallace(A) vs. Ratliff(F) (I'll take the 5 time all star and the 4 time Defensive Player of the Year over a guy that I didn't even know was still in the league.)

Both benches are good, so they would even eachother out and both would get at least a B.

Original Team: A,B,B,B+,A
After Detroit messed up original team: B,A,B,A,F

Maybe it is just me, but the original Detroit team looks awfully good. By the way Detroit, you said that S.A. also lost his first game of the series, and you were trying to compare yourself to him. Well that is a stupid comparrison because S.A. team now is much better then original team.

Terry vs. Parker (evens out)
Wade vs. Ginobli (Wade)
Lebron vs. Bowen (Lebron)
Duncan
Magloire vs. Mohommad (Magloire)

Perfect example of good GMing by S.A. and not so good GMing by Detroit. Don't take it personall, just stating the facts.

You should grade based on things like defense, offense, three point shooting, blocking, stealing, passing, etc rather than individual players, this is a team game not a big name game. One reason Billups is a lot better than Hinrich in real life is the fact that he was the Finals MVP, All Star, and is very clutch, that stuff doesn't matter in the game. And his new bench is much better.

And, don't forget.. "Magloire vs. Mohommad (Magloire)".. Mohammed is still on my bench

[Detroit Pistons]

you see i also did that, but i wasnt so biased considering i love both teams and it looks like this...

Hinrich 79 Billups 83 (-4)
Bryant 95 Hamilton 76 (+19)
Artest 85 Prince 84 (+1)
Garnett 96 Wallace 89 (+6)
Ratliff 66 Wallace 85 (-19)

Total: +3

Bench

McInnis 67
Giricek 67
Dunleavy 76
Mcdyess 72
Coleman 69
Arroyo 65
Laettner 64
Garcia 61
Dixon 66
Diaw 69

and my bench i started with was:
Hunter 70
Delfino 60
Campbell 63
Milicic 56
Arroyo 65
Mcdyess 72

is that not an improvement? i think i know what im doing. look up garcia's numbers, diaw's numbers, giricek's numbers, dixon's numbers, and look at my youth. i think you might see i will have the deepest team next year. lets not forget giricek, dixon, dunleavy, hinrich, diaw, garcia, and even arroyo are really young. everyone of those except arroyo i believe are under 4 years pro. heck even artest and kobe arent old. they might be vet's but no one on my team (exception of mcdyess, coleman, laettner and i think ratliff) is over 30 years of age. and btw, coleman, laettner, and ratliff are all FAs so they might not even be sticking around. so dont worry about what im doing with my team...i think i have a really good idea where im heading. hey cleveland i have an idea, how about you worry about your team and ill worry about mine. why must you insist on saying i have a bad team and did a bad job?

[San Antonio Spurs]

The only problem is, the two positions you decreased in are the two most important positions in the game. That's my problem too, my worst two positions are the two most important ones.

My old team vs new team:
Parker (77) vs Terry (80) +3
Ginobili (88) vs Wade (91) +2
Bowen (70) vs Lebron (95) +25
Duncan (91) vs Duncan (91) +0
Mohammed (67) vs Magloire (71) +4
Total: +34

[Cleveland Cavaliers]

The original Detroit team is still better then the Detroit team now, but I'm just saying this stuff to talk trash since I'm playing you. You have the 2nd best team, and it should be Detroit vs. S.A. in the final. However, the fact that you only have 4 players that are good instead of 5 makes me think that I have a chance to beat you.

[Dallas Mavericks]

Detroit...go back an look at what i said...if you made no changes you would have the best TEAM in the game. sure you have KG, Kobe, and Artest now...but dont you think that they are going to take ball posessions away from eachother? the game doesnt work that way. All star teams dont always win...look at the 04 lakers...a real team smoked them. teams that play well together will win...thats why a lesser memphis team took me out. they played better as a team.

[Detroit Pistons]

i dont know about that...it might of just been matchup problems. i believe in the game that the longer players are together the better they play with each other though. my team has been together for a long time now so i dont think thats a problem. we'll see, but i think my team is really good the way it is...

[New Jersey Nets]

You do, I like pretty much everyone here(exept for a few people haha)but I don't know how they can say you didn't do a good job with your team when both yourself and the actual Pistons are #1 seeds in the East.

[Cleveland Cavaliers]

That is how it should be. All I am saying is that if my team was going up against the original Pistons I would probably get swept or loose in 5.