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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 31, 2007 21:40:54 GMT -5
Spurs send: Udonis Haslem $7,500,000 2007 SAS 2nd round pick
Rockets send: Andres Nocioni - 3,030,000 2007 HOU 1st round pick
Rockets are: $6,694,580 under the cap
I accept
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Post by Houston Rockets on Jan 31, 2007 21:43:42 GMT -5
I accept
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Feb 2, 2007 19:35:03 GMT -5
im interested in nocioni pm me
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Post by Dallas Mavericks on Feb 2, 2007 23:38:31 GMT -5
i accept
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Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Feb 3, 2007 0:46:04 GMT -5
I think that this is pretty unfair, Nocioni might be a FA after this season but SA also gains a 1st rounder out of all this?
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 3, 2007 5:48:43 GMT -5
plus nocioni is better then haslem alone and nocioni is a RFA
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Post by Portland Trail Blazers on Feb 3, 2007 16:28:17 GMT -5
Ya, i dont get the pick in this situation? Even if Houston does need a pf badly, i still see that Nocioni is clearly the better player.
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Post by Minnesota Timberwolves on Feb 3, 2007 17:00:58 GMT -5
Nocioni plays PF a lot in real life so they dont have to start P.J. Brown and bench Deng or Nocioni
Hinrich Gordon Deng Nocioni Wallace
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 3, 2007 18:53:09 GMT -5
Ya, i dont get the pick in this situation? Even if Houston does need a pf badly, i still see that Nocioni is clearly the better player. Houston needed a PF that was locked up under a reasonable contract, and didn't want to lose Nocioni in FA for nothing. I had Haslem, but didn't want to trade him for someone I'd lose in the summer. I couldn't take on any more players and this is the only way we could get a deal done. He had a 1st round pick that wouldn't be in the lottery and I had a 2nd round pick that we could swap. I agree Nocioni is a little better, but Haslem fits his team better and his better for his team's future.
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Post by Houston Rockets on Feb 3, 2007 19:28:19 GMT -5
well obviously i don't want to do this trade anymore now that i analizyd the steaks, i thought haslems numbers would have been way better than what i want, im hoping now that they will decline this trade, and i have a better plan now then what i was thinking with haslem
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 3, 2007 19:37:06 GMT -5
Haslems numbers are very similar in real life, a few less points and a few more rebounds. In the game, you can't compare the stats, because he's playing behind Duncan, Granger, Boozer, and Horry so he's not playing. He will help your team out in the future, and is a very solid role player. That's silly that you're going to agree to a trade and then try to back out.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 3, 2007 19:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Feb 3, 2007 19:39:01 GMT -5
Haslems numbers are very similar in real life, a few less points and a few more rebounds. In the game, you can't compare the stats, because he's playing behind Duncan, Granger, Boozer, and Horry so he's not playing. He will help your team out in the future, and is a very solid role player. That's silly that you're going to agree to a trade and then try to back out. And besides he is Wade's real psychic not that Fat Turkey named officer Shaq
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Post by Houston Rockets on Feb 3, 2007 19:48:59 GMT -5
Haslems numbers are very similar in real life, a few less points and a few more rebounds. In the game, you can't compare the stats, because he's playing behind Duncan, Granger, Boozer, and Horry so he's not playing. He will help your team out in the future, and is a very solid role player. That's silly that you're going to agree to a trade and then try to back out. And besides he is Wade's real psychic not that Fat Turkey named officer Shaq actually its him and shaq when shaq isn't injured. hes a 70, and his rebs are only better than nocioni, people have backed out of trades before. this trade isn't fair at all i didn't really get anything good in this i could have kept marcus and would have been fine
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Post by Portland Trail Blazers on Feb 3, 2007 19:55:03 GMT -5
Ya, i dont get the pick in this situation? Even if Houston does need a pf badly, i still see that Nocioni is clearly the better player. Houston needed a PF that was locked up under a reasonable contract, and didn't want to lose Nocioni in FA for nothing. I had Haslem, but didn't want to trade him for someone I'd lose in the summer. I couldn't take on any more players and this is the only way we could get a deal done. He had a 1st round pick that wouldn't be in the lottery and I had a 2nd round pick that we could swap. I agree Nocioni is a little better, but Haslem fits his team better and his better for his team's future. Nocioni is a restricted free agent, so he wouldnt be losing anything if he wants to pay him. So talent wise, i really think Nocioni is better then haslem. Dont get me wrong, Haslem is a workhorse inside, but i dont think the first round pick should be in there and justified for it. A 1st round pick is a 1st round pick, and whether its in the lottery doesnt really matter since you will be surpirised how much that 1st round pick will be worth once draft day comes. I really think Nocioni is gonna be a great player in the future and possibly an all star, where as Haslem will be just a solid role player at best that does the little things to help his team win.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 3, 2007 19:58:00 GMT -5
i dont think houston is backing out, rather then changing his mind. its not up to him, but to the committee whether the trade goes through
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 3, 2007 19:58:51 GMT -5
You should have examined these things and made a more informed decision before you accepted any trades. Maybe this will be a good lesson in being a GM. You need to take more time thinking about trades and how they will help you now and in the future before you make any moves. I haven't made a trade I regret because I haven't agreed to anything in the spur of the moment. And, Marcus wouldnt help anyone out in the way Haslem will, now or down the road. He's not even in the league now, so he prolly wont be in the next game and def wont have a rating close to Haslem.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 3, 2007 20:00:14 GMT -5
i dont think houston is backing out, rather then changing his mind. its not up to him, but to the committee whether the trade goes through He's trying to back out for sure, he keeps PMing me trying to change my mind and have me agree to back out. He even said he "obviously doesnt want to do this trade anymore"
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Post by Houston Rockets on Feb 3, 2007 20:00:50 GMT -5
You should have examined these things and made a more informed decision before you accepted any trades. Maybe this will be a good lesson in being a GM. You need to take more time thinking about trades and how they will help you now and in the future before you make any moves. I haven't made a trade I regret because I haven't agreed to anything in the spur of the moment. And, Marcus wouldnt help anyone out in the way Haslem will, now or down the road. He's not even in the league now, so he prolly wont be in the next game and def wont have a rating close to Haslem. actually he is and ive played with him before, and hes a 69 and haslem is a 70
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Post by Portland Trail Blazers on Feb 3, 2007 20:02:33 GMT -5
Ya i agree,
Houston...i think you gotta look over your deals more into detail, instead of just putting players names together and hoping the contracts will match.
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