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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jan 24, 2007 23:22:28 GMT -5
then I wont even start okafor felton and gasol it just makes me want to tank. I worked hard to for salary and to build my team under the rules we originally voted on where you cant re sign a URFA unless you have the cap. This will help people and the smart gm's who can get under the cap. Like there is no point in being a decent .500 team because if I know I can't compete then why not tank the season so I can get a chance at oden and billups. This doesn't make sense.
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Jan 24, 2007 23:46:11 GMT -5
then I wont even start okafor felton and gasol it just makes me want to tank. I worked hard to for salary and to build my team under the rules we originally voted on where you cant re sign a URFA unless you have the cap. This will help people and the smart gm's who can get under the cap. Like there is no point in being a decent .500 team because if I know I can't compete then why not tank the season so I can get a chance at oden and billups. This doesn't make sense. you are the gm not the coach. the gm gets the guys, the coach decides who plays. one idea i have is maybe you can have 2 drafts, but not the same order for both. like maybe have a "reverse lottery." like the team with the worst record overall gets the best chance at the 1st pick overall for rookies, and the team that just missed the playoffs gets the best chance at #1 pick for veterans.
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Post by New Orleans Hornets on Jan 25, 2007 0:05:37 GMT -5
The best way that i have heard so far is to just combine all UFA and incoming rokiues into one draft and go from there. That way people need to decide between a rookie like odean or a UFA
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Post by Milwaukee Bucks on Jan 25, 2007 1:23:36 GMT -5
but then what do you do about draft picks
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Post by New Orleans Hornets on Jan 25, 2007 1:52:15 GMT -5
No matter what happens so teams are going to be upset and some teams are going to be completely happy. SO far though it doesnt look good for those teams that are stuck with bad contracts or those teams that dont have a team of stars
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Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jan 25, 2007 2:51:14 GMT -5
I don't like this idea. I think that the careful planning and trading of players can allow any team to succeed if they stick around long enough. I can think of many problems with this system and would rather just keep it the way it is with a FA system.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jan 25, 2007 13:37:35 GMT -5
i can control who i want to start. We just tell spurs who to start. I think the system that we voted on earlier was the best solution. This will reduce the spending drastically because if a team knows they are going to lose their UFRA, they are going to try like hell to get under the cap far enough to keep him. This will reduce crazy spending in my eyes plus we have a max contract now. I mean smart planning can lead a team. I had the number 1 overall pick last year and I made my team a decent playoff squad with so much room for improvement and cap space. So I am sure toher teams are very capable you know. It just wouldn't be right to do that rookies and free agents together thing because whats the point of free agency and money.... also if a guy is in the last year of the contract he will be gone right away. I just think this is a bad rule compared to what we voted on 2 times.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jan 25, 2007 13:40:14 GMT -5
a great solution is too leave the salaries the same they are right now til after free agency is over using the rule if you don't have cap room you can not sign your URFA. Then when free agency is over we reset the current salaries.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 25, 2007 14:01:02 GMT -5
That will encourage people to shell out bad contracts knowing they won't have to worry about it later. Like if I had a restricted free agent that isn't that good, but I'd pay a couple million to keep but no more, I wouldn't mind giving him a max this offseason to make sure I get him for whatever price he goes for in the real nba.
I just thought of this idea also.. The team with the worst record and so forth gets 1st pick in the rookie draft. The team with the most cap space and so forth gets the 1st pick in the veteran draft.
That gives more emphasis on staying under the cap, you will get better picks. It doesn't mean you will get both a high pick in rookie or veteran either though. You can have a decent/good team and be under the cap a lot (see Bobcats, Bucks) and then use the veteran pick to help you out more. Or you can be a bad team over the cap and get a young good cheap player to add to your team.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jan 25, 2007 14:11:48 GMT -5
so the team with the most cap space will only get 1 good player? when they easily have cap space for 2? why won't free agency the way we voted on work out? Sure some of the salaries are outragous but that's the way it is in the nba right now.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 25, 2007 14:42:23 GMT -5
so the team with the most cap space will only get 1 good player? when they easily have cap space for 2? why won't free agency the way we voted on work out? Sure some of the salaries are outragous but that's the way it is in the nba right now. Walking away with 1 of the top free agents is impressive, coming away with 2 of them isn't possible. There are a ton of teams gunning for those people, just because you have the cap space doesn't mean they are yours. You will not be adding Carter and Billups to your team this offseason, maybe not either. Maybe 3 teams have $15,000,000 in cap space and the other two get Carter and Billups, and maybe Rashard Lewis decides to not opt out of his contract. Nocioni, Varejao, and Milicic are restricted, so are most likely staying. You might be left with a shot at Billups or Grant Hill. There are no guarantees in our Free Agency.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 25, 2007 14:45:41 GMT -5
The 11 teams we are waiting on are:
Nets Celtics Raptors Pistons Cavaliers Bulls Portland Timberwolves Phoenix Kings
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Post by Miami Heat on Jan 25, 2007 15:50:50 GMT -5
i still dont see a reason to change what we voted on earlier. it wasnt fool proof but it was better than this and anything else we have come up with over the course of this league. i say keep it the same for at least this offseason, and if it doesnt work, then change it.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Jan 25, 2007 15:56:35 GMT -5
fool proof lol
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jan 25, 2007 16:22:50 GMT -5
pierce has a player option so he will be a free agent also. and why is it impossible to sign 2 players? How many teams actually have 15 mil open right now to sign top free agents when I will have like 35 mil. So 2 isn't out of the question and actually is in mine for example. I mean I can make pitches for the players I would want including vc (played his college ball there) and pierce (finally piece in a championship caliber starting line up) I don't see why it would be impossible to sign 2 marquee players in an offseason.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Jan 25, 2007 16:36:54 GMT -5
i had to vote no for the simple fact that you just lose your UFA's and really dont have a chance to get them back unless you have a high pick.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Jan 25, 2007 16:41:43 GMT -5
i got a questions, where is NJ? he hasnt said anything since jan 5, and his last login was jan 8. before he said i accept on jan 5, it was on dec 29.. he isnt so active anymore
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 25, 2007 18:53:05 GMT -5
pierce has a player option so he will be a free agent also. and why is it impossible to sign 2 players? How many teams actually have 15 mil open right now to sign top free agents when I will have like 35 mil. So 2 isn't out of the question and actually is in mine for example. I mean I can make pitches for the players I would want including vc (played his college ball there) and pierce (finally piece in a championship caliber starting line up) I don't see why it would be impossible to sign 2 marquee players in an offseason. 2 is out of the question. you have teams like the Bucks competing with you. Would Vince Carter rather play along Chris Paul, Kevin Martin, and Dwight Howard and some nice role players or Pau Gasol, Emeka Okafor, and Raymond Felton? And he has a ton of cap too. Not to mention Vince has been in the league a long time, so he can get up to $18,000,000 or $21,000,000 I'm not sure which without checking. Pierce will not be a FA, he had a player option, but he picked it up and then signed an extension, so he did not become a FA. That's another reason I want to move to real NBA salaries, it's hard to us to keep track of the original salaries that were in place when this league started. With the draft, we won't have any drama with people picking who goes to which team, or any debates over it. It eliminates any bias.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 25, 2007 18:54:03 GMT -5
i had to vote no for the simple fact that you just lose your UFA's and really dont have a chance to get them back unless you have a high pick. Most teams are over the cap and will lose them regardless anyways.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jan 25, 2007 19:01:18 GMT -5
i got a questions, where is NJ? he hasnt said anything since jan 5, and his last login was jan 8. before he said i accept on jan 5, it was on dec 29.. he isnt so active anymore He's prolly just busy, or maybe something happened to his computer, I'll try to e-mail him, but he's not in any danger of losing his team or anything
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