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Post by Miami Heat on Jul 2, 2006 18:46:41 GMT -5
i dont mind that, its just that 75 million is to much, it needs to be lower
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Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 2, 2006 18:54:12 GMT -5
If we do the hard cap then we would have to restructure a couple of teams due to the fact they are Waaaaaaay over the cap. I think for now the best option would be to only let RFA go over cap and UFA can only be signed if you have cap space (I wouldn't be opposed to allowing one UFA not changing teams be signed and still go over the cap to allow players like Lebron or Kobe to be on the same team b/c Im sure the team they are on had to give up alot to obtain them, but only one per offseason).
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Post by Miami Heat on Jul 2, 2006 18:57:23 GMT -5
(I wouldn't be opposed to allowing one UFA not changing teams be signed and still go over the cap to allow players like Lebron or Kobe to be on the same team b/c Im sure the team they are on had to give up alot to obtain them, but only one per offseason). but the problem is that most teams only have one key free agent. so they could just sign that one player, considering that they dont have any cap space to sign any one else.
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Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 2, 2006 19:11:53 GMT -5
(I wouldn't be opposed to allowing one UFA not changing teams be signed and still go over the cap to allow players like Lebron or Kobe to be on the same team b/c Im sure the team they are on had to give up alot to obtain them, but only one per offseason). but the problem is that most teams only have one key free agent. so they could just sign that one player, considering that they dont have any cap space to sign any one else. If that is the case, good planning for them. I don't see to many teams with only one FA an offseason though. If he signs a big name that is all he can sign and not his backups or other starters without using his MLE which is only allowed once every two years. There has to be some ballance to the system. Clevland has two superstars being free agents and he should, in my opinion, at least be given the option of one of them to sign and still go over the cap. It makes for hard decisions but it also makes it interesting.
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Post by twiens on Jul 2, 2006 19:17:37 GMT -5
You get to use the MLE every year, the LLE is what you can only use every 2nd year.
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Post by Player Agent 3 [Clippers] on Jul 2, 2006 19:18:18 GMT -5
You get to use the MLE every year, the LLE is what you can only use every 2nd year. If that is the case then it should be every two years too.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 2, 2006 19:54:24 GMT -5
I voted for my proposal of only being allowed to go over the cap to resign your own restricted free agents. It just makes the most sense to me.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 3, 2006 8:40:08 GMT -5
I like the Clippers idea. You can only resign RFA to go over the cap, and only 1 UFA before you have to use the MLE, LLE.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Jul 3, 2006 8:48:49 GMT -5
but most teams only have that 1 UFA they want anyway. meaning still that 90% of the stars are already off the market. i at least want a chance to sign a big name player
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 3, 2006 9:02:25 GMT -5
i dont know. personally i think if you shouldnt be allowed to resign your own UFA if it brings you over the cap or if you are already over the cap, except for using the MLE. Again we could have a poll. We need to do what the league wants to do as a whole though.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 3, 2006 9:09:07 GMT -5
It's a compromise between both sides. Some want to resign any, some want to resign any to an extent, some want to resign only RFA. Might as well let you resign 1 UFA. This may be a weak FA class this year, we can't help that, but next year this rule will help move a lot of stars.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Jul 3, 2006 9:09:56 GMT -5
well people like you want that rule. you have terry, so you want to resign him. nj has ben wallace, and so on.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 3, 2006 9:10:18 GMT -5
or maybe you can resign either your RFA's OR 1 UFA and go over the cap
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 3, 2006 9:10:51 GMT -5
It's a compromise between both sides. Some want to resign any, some want to resign any to an extent, some want to resign only RFA. Might as well let you resign 1 UFA. This may be a weak FA class this year, we can't help that, but next year this rule will help move a lot of stars. true. this is the middle ground between both sides. it should satisfy everyone. I have a feeling though, alot of max contracts will probably be signed
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 3, 2006 9:11:56 GMT -5
well people like you want that rule. you have terry, so you want to resign him. nj has ben wallace, and so on. so why should I be punished by new rule changes? i'd rather us just keep it the same way as last year. but im willing to compromise with everyone.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 3, 2006 9:13:00 GMT -5
or maybe you can resign either your RFA's OR 1 UFA and go over the cap hmm i think that sounds good too. Actually I like this one better. If you choose to go over the cap to resign an UFA then you can no longer go over the cap to resign your RFA. If you go over the cap to resign a or multiple RFA then you cant go over the cap to resign your UFA. I like this one i think.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 3, 2006 9:14:38 GMT -5
It's a compromise between both sides. Some want to resign any, some want to resign any to an extent, some want to resign only RFA. Might as well let you resign 1 UFA. This may be a weak FA class this year, we can't help that, but next year this rule will help move a lot of stars. true. this is the middle ground between both sides. it should satisfy everyone. I have a feeling though, alot of max contracts will probably be signed all of these crazy contracts, we should just eliminate the salary part completely, not more keeping track of salaries for cap or trade purposes, eventually everyone will be on a max anyways lol
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Jul 3, 2006 9:21:32 GMT -5
well thats not true and i hope your just joking. thats why i feel you should only be allowed to go over the cap to resign RFA not UFA. How about this though:
We make this a rule: "you can resign either your RFA's OR 1 UFA and go over the cap" like you said before
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Enforce a hard cap of 75 million dollars.
The details could be added later but the basics, if you are over the hard cap you must cut people until you are under. Or to be fairer you could be allowed 24 hours to make trades to bring you back under.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jul 3, 2006 9:40:46 GMT -5
I was joking about that.
I hate the idea of that hard cap. In the NBA, you can not cut people to take them off your salary. If you cut them, you still have to pay them. Also, there are quite a few teams here that are already over the $75 million limit you propose. The Knicks in the NBA have an over $120 million payroll. I don't like the hard cap idea, at all.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Jul 3, 2006 9:44:53 GMT -5
I hate the idea of that hard cap. In the NBA, you can not cut people to take them off your salary. If you cut them, you still have to pay them. I think Detroit meant a one time amnesty, like the NBA had last year when teams got to cut 1 guy for free
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