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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 17:09:47 GMT -5
It's simply this, I'll put a list of players that are likely to be traded away, you can say they will get traded or they won't
NOTE: if they do get traded, please tell which destination it will be in.
and if you want you can add why they would end up there too.
So let's get it started then.
Kevin Garnett Kobe Bryant Shawn Marion Paul Pierce Jermaine O'Neal Lamar Odom Amare Studomire Ron Artest Rashard Lewis (via S&T) Mike Bibby Vince Carter Jason Kidd Pau Gasol
and that's about it I guess.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Jun 27, 2007 17:11:56 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett: Suns Kobe Bryant: lakers Shawn Marion:Celtics Paul Pierce:celtics Jermaine O'Neal: Lakers Lamar Odom:Pacers Amare Studomire:Suns Ron Artest:Heat? Rashard Lewis (via S&T): Sign with orlando Mike Bibby: Stays Vince Carter: NJ Jason Kidd:NJ Pau Gasol:Griz
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 17:15:34 GMT -5
KG: Lakers Kobe: Bulls Marion: stays Pierce: stays JO: NYK Odom: stays Amare: stays Artest: Heat Rashard Lewis: Bucks? Bibby: stays VC: works out a S&T and ends up in CHA Kidd: stays Gasol: stays
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jun 27, 2007 17:16:00 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett - Should be traded, to make him happy. To the Suns if so, or Dallas, because he deserves a chance to win. Kobe Bryant - Should be traded, because he isn't happy in LA, but he won't be, for business reasons. He brings in the money. Shawn Marion - If it means bringing in Garnett, yes. If it is just to save money, no. His name always seems to be out there though. Paul Pierce - He should be, he isn't young enough to be in their long term goals. Jermaine O'Neal - He should be. He is overpaid, time to rebuild in Indy. Lamar Odom - If he can somehow net them an all star, why wouldn't you? Amare Stoudamire - No, he shouldn't be traded. Ron Artest - Yes, rebuild in Sacramento. Rashard Lewis (via S&T) - If they get Oden, no way, if they get Durant, think about it, if you can get good value for him. Mike Bibby - Yes, rebuild in Sacramento. Vince Carter - No - Unless you can find a taker for Kidd and begin to rebuild - but they are in the Atlantic div where anything can happen Jason Kidd - No, unless you can get someone worth rebuilding for Pau Gasol - He should be, he obviously doesn't want to be there.
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Post by Houston Rockets on Jun 27, 2007 17:22:08 GMT -5
i really wished Boston hadn't backed out the 4 way that also include, indy, lal, and Minny it was a big trade. It just boston didn't think they where getting enough so looks like Kobe's future will be uncertain. i think there will be some major trade soon tho
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 17:22:46 GMT -5
Kevin Garnett - Should be traded, to make him happy. To the Suns if so, or Dallas, because he deserves a chance to win. Kobe Bryant - Should be traded, because he isn't happy in LA, but he won't be, for business reasons. He brings in the money. Shawn Marion - If it means bringing in Garnett, yes. If it is just to save money, no. His name always seems to be out there though. Paul Pierce - He should be, he isn't young enough to be in their long term goals. Jermaine O'Neal - He should be. He is overpaid, time to rebuild in Indy. Lamar Odom - If he can somehow net them an all star, why wouldn't you? Amare Stoudamire - No, he shouldn't be traded. Ron Artest - Yes, rebuild in Sacramento. Rashard Lewis (via S&T) - If they get Oden, no way, if they get Durant, think about it, if you can get good value for him. Mike Bibby - Yes, rebuild in Sacramento. Vince Carter - No - Unless you can find a taker for Kidd and begin to rebuild - but they are in the Atlantic div where anything can happen Jason Kidd - No, unless you can get someone worth rebuilding for Pau Gasol - He should be, he obviously doesn't want to be there. KG could end up in LA with Kobe since they are friends, and they might revive the 4 way trade except, try to involve a team that wants O'Neal (New York anyone) but I think Kobe will only stay if KG is wearing purple and gold, other then that he is gone unless they get O'Neal and Gasol trading Odom and Bynum in 2 different deals. KG I think he will go to the Suns just for the fact MIN wants to rebuild, and that's what their motive is, I don't get why PHX would do this Amare is already KG and he is 6 years younger then him, they probably would have won the series if Nash hadan't faked that hip check, instead of falling forward he overdramatized it, and also because of the stupid rules of NBA the Suns lost as well. I can see Carter being moved to CHA, CHA needs a SG and they have nice pieces to offer up to NJ for Carter. Morrison, S&T Gerald Wallace, Matt Carroll, 8tha nd 22nd pick, Sean May, Walter Herrman. so they have some nice players that NJ would be interested in for Carter. I doubt Kidd would go though.
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 17:26:29 GMT -5
I don't know if MIN would be interested in real life, but I thought of a trade similar to what the T'Wolves would get in the 3-way deal with Hawks and Suns.
LAL send: Odom, Bynum, Vlad and 19th pick LAL receives: KG and maybe Craig Smith
IND send: JO and Ike Diogu IND receives: Odom, Bynum, Vlad, and 19th pick
NY send: Francis (has opt out clause next year), Fyre, Robinson, 23rd pick NY recives: JO and maybe Diogu
MIN send: KG and maybe Craig Smith MIN receives: Francis, Fyre, Robinson, and 23rd pick
I don't know if this is better then the Hawks but this should work if any of the 3 teams LAL, IND, MIN can convice the Knicks to take O'Neal.
and JO wants to go to NY to play for his buddy Isiah again.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Jun 27, 2007 17:40:02 GMT -5
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 17:42:42 GMT -5
yeah they would be good, they don't even have a PG to run the offense with these talented guys on their team. Amare is great no doubt and would be a beast in the East making ATL good, but if you know one thing about the NBA without a good PG to lead your team, your team is history.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jun 27, 2007 17:50:38 GMT -5
Phoenix doesn't want to send Amare to Atlanta. It obviously helps Atlanta much more next year than any draft picks will, which is bad for Phoenix who owns their 2008 unprotected draft pick. You know whats crazy though, imagine if Atlanta didn't win the lottery (they moved up from 4 to 3), then Phoenix would have gotten their draft pick. Phoenix could then trade for Garnett without giving up Amare. Kurt Thomas, Boris Diaw, #4 for KG? They get an expiring contract, young rising star, and a high draft pick, exactly what they are asking for. Phoenix then runs a lineup of Amare / Garnett / Marion / Bell / Nash.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Jun 27, 2007 17:54:06 GMT -5
I agree, also for MN, they should just keep Amare, I'd rather a proven stud locked up long term to 2 draft picks. Amare, foye davis can make a decent team.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jun 27, 2007 18:00:28 GMT -5
I agree, also for MN, they should just keep Amare, I'd rather a proven stud locked up long term to 2 draft picks. Amare, foye davis can make a decent team. And if I'm Amare, I'm absolutely refusing to be traded to Minnesota, even if that means not showing up, after seeing what they did to Garnett's career.
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 18:05:41 GMT -5
I agree, also for MN, they should just keep Amare, I'd rather a proven stud locked up long term to 2 draft picks. Amare, foye davis can make a decent team. And if I'm Amare, I'm absolutely refusing to be traded to Minnesota, even if that means not showing up, after seeing what they did to Garnett's career. hey atleast McHale isn't totally bad, he did some okay moves. B!tch Kupcrack, and Jim "I have no B-Ball IQ" Bust that's who LA has. heck I rather have Bird, McHale, and Isiah as my GM's then those 2 guys combined.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Jun 27, 2007 18:11:30 GMT -5
that was hilarrious, mchale is terrible, far worse than anyone in LA, they don't own any draft picks til about 2010
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 18:17:04 GMT -5
that was hilarrious, mchale is terrible, far worse than anyone in LA, they don't own any draft picks til about 2010 2002 could of had Boozer 2003 could of had Howard or Barbosa 2004 could of had Noicioni, Varajao, or Duhon 2005 could of had Blatche, Gomes, or Ellis instead of Von Wafter 2006 could of had Dan Gibson and look at the trade opprtunities he blew for keeping Bynum, I like Bynum but LAL are in a win now situation. Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd, Carlos Boozer, Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Tyson Chandler, JR Smith, Eddy Curry, C-Webb, Steve Francis, Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, and right now he might miss out on KG and JO too.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Jun 27, 2007 18:25:53 GMT -5
that was hilarrious, mchale is terrible, far worse than anyone in LA, they don't own any draft picks til about 2010 2002 could of had Boozer 2003 could of had Howard or Barbosa 2004 could of had Noicioni, Varajao, or Duhon 2005 could of had Blatche, Gomes, or Ellis instead of Von Wafter 2006 could of had Dan Gibson and look at the trade opprtunities he blew for keeping Bynum, I like Bynum but LAL are in a win now situation. Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd, Carlos Boozer, Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Tyson Chandler, JR Smith, Eddy Curry, C-Webb, Steve Francis, Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, and right now he might miss out on KG and JO too. lots of teams missed out on all the players you listed, mchale destroyed that franchise. it has no good players, tons of bad contracts and has traded away future picks into the next decade. They can't get better
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 18:43:43 GMT -5
2002 could of had Boozer 2003 could of had Howard or Barbosa 2004 could of had Noicioni, Varajao, or Duhon 2005 could of had Blatche, Gomes, or Ellis instead of Von Wafter 2006 could of had Dan Gibson and look at the trade opprtunities he blew for keeping Bynum, I like Bynum but LAL are in a win now situation. Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, Jason Kidd, Carlos Boozer, Ron Artest, Al Harrington, Tyson Chandler, JR Smith, Eddy Curry, C-Webb, Steve Francis, Corey Maggette, Stephen Jackson, and right now he might miss out on KG and JO too. lots of teams missed out on all the players you listed, mchale destroyed that franchise. it has no good players, tons of bad contracts and has traded away future picks into the next decade. They can't get better I get the point you are making and your right McHale killed the Wolves with the stupid Joe Smith signing, but Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak has done a job that could be considered worser then what McHale did, speaking of destroying a franchise that's what Kupchak and Buss did. You can blame Kobe, Shaq, Phil, and whoever. but Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss are making the FO moves not Kobe, Phil, or Jerry Buss who gave that power to his idiotic son Jim.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Jun 27, 2007 18:47:16 GMT -5
lots of teams missed out on all the players you listed, mchale destroyed that franchise. it has no good players, tons of bad contracts and has traded away future picks into the next decade. They can't get better I get the point you are making and your right McHale killed the Wolves with the stupid Joe Smith signing, but Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak has done a job that could be considered worser then what McHale did, speaking of destroying a franchise that's what Kupchak and Buss did. You can blame Kobe, Shaq, Phil, and whoever. but Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss are making the FO moves not Kobe, Phil, or Jerry Buss who gave that power to his idiotic son Jim. Let's just all agree that the Lakers, Knicks, Wolves, Celtics, etc could be great teams today if it wasn't for the horrible moves they made.
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jun 27, 2007 18:53:54 GMT -5
I get the point you are making and your right McHale killed the Wolves with the stupid Joe Smith signing, but Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak has done a job that could be considered worser then what McHale did, speaking of destroying a franchise that's what Kupchak and Buss did. You can blame Kobe, Shaq, Phil, and whoever. but Mitch Kupchak and Jim Buss are making the FO moves not Kobe, Phil, or Jerry Buss who gave that power to his idiotic son Jim. Let's just all agree that the Lakers, Knicks, Wolves, Celtics, etc could be great teams today if it wasn't for the horrible moves they made. yeah tru that, tru that.
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jun 27, 2007 19:05:29 GMT -5
Being that I have been a die-hard Hawks fan since I was a baby, I'm on cloud nine that we may come up big tomorow night in some way. Hopefully Billy Knight doesn't screw it up but I think he has it.
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